We want to keep the “Community” in Community radio, so let us know just how you feel about the planned changes at KBCS.
Tell us what you think about the “new” KBCS!
25 Comments
#1 by Joy on July 24, 2009 - 8:10 pm
Most current listeners are not on this blog because they do not know about it, except the few who got e-mails from friends or programmers. The hosts are NOT allowed to talk about this blog or the comments page on the air. I was mystified at first why they were not doing so, when this matter is so urgent. But when I asked one why he wasn’t speaking about these upcoming changes (but instead making references to the vague and misleading letter on the main website), he told me they were not allowed to say anything about the SaveKBCS web page or blog on air. If they did so, they have been told that would be their last show. So basically, they have been threatened.
Management seems determined to do this with as little knowledge of it, and input by the public as possible. This is hugely disrespectful to both the hosts and the listeners.
#2 by Tom Wass on July 24, 2009 - 12:45 pm
I am very sad to learn of the format changes @ KBCS. I have sent them money annually for the total 19 years I have lived in Seattle. However, if they think they will continue to get my money by becoming a watered down version of KMTT or any other clear channel-lite station, it’s not going to happen.
I have e-mailed the station to tell them they no longer have my support.
#3 by Iain Edgewater on July 24, 2009 - 2:49 am
In the last paragraph, I should have said: “…seem to me to be likely to be a large proportion of the ***expected*** new listener core.” Whether they really will make the transition–largely from KUOW and KPLU, I guess, and maybe also from places like KPTK–remains to be seen, though I’m inclined to agree with Ginger that “those who turn to NPR will probably continue to turn to NPR”. It’s bland enough these days to be casually acceptable to pretty much anyone who’s not a political troglodyte, without making them question received wisdom too much. It’s Seattle, so the numbers will pick up some for Amy G. at better times, but although in some ways I’d be happy to be wrong about agreeing with Ginger I gotta wonder whether someone as sharp as Michael Eric Dyson competes well with NPR here outside the news-junkie niche (another narrow listener constituency like “jazz listener” or “rap+deathmetal aficionado”, but I digress).
#4 by Iain Edgewater on July 24, 2009 - 2:38 am
With regard to the question of what metrics are being used to evaluate listenership: unless I misunderstood Peter Graff very fundamentally, and/or misunderstood the web resources I found reading about this topic, listener loyalty is the primary metric used to measure radio station success in the nonprofit context.
In commercial radio, it’s all about sheer audience numbers–ideally, high numbers all the time, but if you can at least get high numbers for one show, that’s great because you can sell that ad space for higher rates. However, in the nonprofit context, the starting assumption of the loyalty metric is that the less people tune away from your station, the more you’re serving them, so sheer numbers are not the main issue (as long as they don’t get too low. After all, if there was only ever one listener who never changed the station, that’s great loyalty but probably an unsustainably low level of listener support).
On one level, the loyalty metric makes a certain amount of sense. You might think that people who value the diversity of what stations like KBCS do would listen all the time, if they’re so into it. But that is a red herring, for two reasons. First, most people aren’t that catholic in their listening habits–they’re into what they’re into, and not what they’re not–but might value their venue for reasons that go beyond whether they get to listen to their preferred genre all day. That leads to the second issue, because I think the number of such “transcendent valuers” probably is comparatively small: do these folks, whether they listen all the time or not, contribute enough to support the station *because they are committed to chip in for the portions of the station that they actually care to use*?
Whether there are enough such people in the past, present, or future to sustain the station is an empirical matter that can be debated–personally, I tend to believe current leadership when they say the funding doesn’t measure up for the long haul, and I don’t believe in my heart of hearts that everybody in community radio is starting to go down the CPB funding pathway described in the links I quoted above just because they’ve got dollar signs in their eyes. (The salaries of people at the station are publicly available, since they’re state employees. Based on what I see, nobody is getting fat working for KBCS.) It’s just that abominations like the Reagan administration wrecked the gains of the ’60s and ’70s, and ground has not been recovered since–so everyone’s over a barrel, especially now that all the bubbles seem to have burst at once. Combine that with the received wisdom that it’s inherently harder to fundraise for stations that juxtapose several different kinds of programming–something I would expect to be true, since, after all, if you have the habit of listening to station X day in and day out, yeah, you’re probably more likely to support them–and it’s quite possible that we’re just in a space that nobody really wanted to be in, but is understood really differently by the different camps. To me it seems like the old reform versus revolution type arguments that pretty much everyone to the left of Olympia Snowe seems to be playing out yet again even as we speak. Should we push hard for reforms in health care, military policy, gays in the military? Or go slow and take what we can get? Really, the whole question seems to boil down in much the same way: “keep it like it is” (and the “other side” would say: even if you go down with the ship?) versus “at least hang on to what you can, in the face of crisis” (and the “other side” would say: even if you gut the soul out of it?). Personally, I’m sympathetic to both “sides”, but I suppose I’m more sympathetic to the former tendency, which is why I’ve weighed in here about it. Too much is getting thrown away too fast, not least the implicit contract with listeners.
As to the “where are the current listeners … where are those clamoring… et cetera” questions, I think the main answer is that mostly they’re not here because at this time they are primarily listeners to other stations, and because many of the targets are more likely to listen casually than the current cadre of listeners whose retention is now at risk. Lots of people listen based on “what sort of sounds ok and is entertaining/informative enough and isn’t something that actively pushes me away”. Think, just for instance, how many of us here reading this would reach for the tuning knob if a program we like was followed by a rap+death metal show, versus how many of us might not go to the trouble as long as the music is acceptable enough to not provoke such a reaction (other than “well, what other station is better?”), or the talk has enough reasonable sound and content as to not provoke a change (“well, at least they’re not grating in tone, or fascists”). These “won’t bother to change the channel” types–which is what most people are–seem to me to be likely to be a large proportion of the new listener core. Sure, they want to be informed, more or less, and listen to decent music, more or less, but aren’t extremely hard-core on that much of anything on the radio otherwise–and when it boils down to it, as much as anything they just don’t want to feel lonely in their cars.
As for the rest of us, well, imagine the kind of thing conservative Democrats usually seem to say to some of us probably-would-have-voted-for-Kucinich-if-he’d-made-it-that-far types: now that he’s off the table, who the hell else are you going to vote for?
#5 by Kris on July 23, 2009 - 11:17 pm
Thanks to Iain for explaining the alternative perspective on how serving the community can be construed.
Can someone clarify what metric(s) the Community Service Grant is using to evaluate listenership — is it primarily “loyalty”? Why does KBCS management think it needs this grant?? Just keep expenses in line with revenues and you are OK. Of course membership is down in the middle of a recession; this is an unrealistic time to try to increase financial reserves. Naturally when choices increase (internet and satellite radio etc.) , listenership decreases across the spectrum of radio stations. Plan your budget accordingly. Put more efforts into marketing to attract new listeners. Don’t throw away the invaluable and irreplaceable resources of current volunteer hosts and their programs.
I agree with Ginger; 250 is the tip of the iceberg. If and when the programming changes are implemented, how many more people will be outraged when their favorite programs go off the air? I predict an upwelling of outcry in August.
Given that this website hasn’t been particularly well publicized, how many listeners know about it? How many assume change is inevitable and don’t bother to comment? How many are not so computer literate or have limited internet access? How many are not fluent in English? Are these not people part of the community that is supposed to be served by community public radio or is the only community that matters those with the deepest pockets who will listen all day? What about preserving and promoting the art and culture of diverse music genres and histories?
It’s also interesting how one-sided the comments have been. Where are the current listeners who will listen more if the format changes? Where are those clamoring for a slick unified programming style? For lots more public affairs? Why don’t they post here and tell us how great these changes would be and how they will be increasing their pledges accordingly?
I would mention I am currently a daily listener with high “loyalty” and am a college-educated professional. I enjoy the majority of current musical programs, but if it starts to sound all the same or too commercial I will be leaving. Currently the programs I’m most likely to turn off are all public affairs and the Grateful Dead Hour. Amy Goodman is excellent as what she does but I won’t be listening to her at 3pm, try 6pm.
#6 by Ginger Hopper on July 23, 2009 - 10:05 pm
“he understands that there are a lot of different tastes and even if those 250 people would choose to not donate anymore, it would be a shame but in the grand scheme of things, it’s not that high of a number.”
What I wonder is .. “according to the stats”, if 250 people SAY they won’t renew… We all know that it is only a percentage of folks who feel the same but don’t speak out (or email). How many are really represented by these 250?
And I don’t see how anyone could possibly think that the same number who QUIT listening to the new public affairs and the new “mix” shows, will be outweighed by new listeners to the new shows. In other words, they will lose way more than they gain, short term and long term.
I believe that those who turn to NPR will probably continue to turn to NPR.
Just my 2 cents worth…
#7 by Iain Edgewater on July 23, 2009 - 5:09 pm
Several people have brought up questions along the lines of “shouldn’t KBCS be responsible to the community?” Without rewinding any of my somewhat abstract rant about “community” at #35 on the first blog page, I think it’s now fairly clear that current station leadership (which includes the Bellevue College Dean who is Steve Ramsey’s boss) believes that making these changes **does** serve the community appropriately. Perhaps there’s a mismatch between what they’re saying and what they’re really thinking inside, but I’m disinclined to believe it. The point is that current station leadership simply has a vision of community service–and how KBCS should be part of it–that is in some key manner radically different from the vision that most posters here have.
The following will be very familiar to some, but may not be to others, so I’ll go ahead and post it in order to make my point as painfully clear as possible. Apologies, once again, if it’s too much. When I get emotionally worked up, I can sometimes babble a million words before calming down.
First of all, some reading material. I strongly recommend reading each of these in detail, even though I’ll be quoting from each of them below.
http://www.samuelfreedman.com/articles/culture/nyt11112001.html (I’ll refer to this one as Freedman)
http://www.pubcap.org/news/index.php?id=57 (I’ll refer to this one as Pubcap)
http://jerrystarr.info/cipbonline/secondary_pages/community_radio.htm (I’ll refer to this one as Starr)
There was a volunteer meeting on 16 July to discuss the rationale for the upcoming programming changes. Central to this was the concept of “loyalty,” a metric formally computed from Arbitron ratings that hinges on the degree to which someone who is a listener to KBCS **at any time duuring the week** continues to be a listener **throughout the week**. Pretend, for the sake of argument, that there are a hundred listeners for Democracy Now in the morning, but only ten of them stick around for Drive Time Jazz and the 9am shows; the other ninety tune to something else. Then, at noon, only ten of *those* listeners stick around for Lunch with Folks, whereas ninety of the previous crew are outta there. Then there’s a similar turnover for Daily Planet, evening public affairs, and so forth. This is a familiar community radio listening dynamic. So anyway, the “loyalty” metric in itself doesn’t really care whether there are a hundred or a thousand or a million people listening to a particular show (though more about that in a minute); what it cares about is that there are lots of people who listen to the station at some *other* time who are *not* listening to that particular show. In the example above, although Lunch with Folks has a hundred person audience, there are many more people who aren’t there: ninety who bailed out after DN! was over, ninety who only dig jazz, ninety who only dig Daily Planet, and so forth, quickly adding up to far more than the hundred for LwF.
Now, these are obviously fictional numbers, and I think it’s possible that the audiences for jazz and folk shows at KBCS are undersampled by Arbitron (given that those audiences probably *tend* to be clustered tightly in particular demographics, whereas Arbitron is sampling across demographics to reflect the actual potential listening population), but that’s how the logic of the loyalty metric works.
Take a look at Freedman. The same kind of analysis is discussed here, and the discussion should help make clear a problem with relying so heavily on the loyalty metric. If the goal is to raise loyalty among listeners (i.e. make it so that they tune away less) as much as possible, then you’re going to need to figure out what sort of programming is going to have the greatest appeal, and focus on that. So why would you do that, as a community radio programmer? The answer is the nonprofit radio establishment has adopted the idea of high loyalty as preeminently reflective of the degree to which a given station is serving the community:
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Then is it a mistake, a third [listener] wanted to know, for the same station to have two kinds of listeners?
“That makes it harder,” Mr. Giovannoni said. “A radio station should be something for the same person all the time. You become less and you become better.”
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“Your challenge,” Mr. Giovannoni said as the session concluded, “is to mine the existing audience. You want to support programming, right? It’s hard to do that when nobody’s listening. Or when nobody values what you do. The way to get more audience? The way to serve your public better? Lose what’s on the periphery. Focus on a single audience and serve that audience extremely, insanely well all the time.”
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“Lose what’s on the periphery.” Not “create a space for genres and traditions that don’t have a place anywhere else,” which is how community radio stations used to define their missions.
Not “preserve an organic connection with local musical constituencies that helps give recognition to those constituencies,” unless those constituencies are not “peripheral”.
So it would seem that some clear aesthetic and community judgments may have been made about you, listeners to daytime jazz and folk programs. Wanting to keep things the way they are suggests that your traditions and musical constituencies are, perhaps, “peripheral”, and must be “lost” in order for the station to serve the “community,” as this new notion of community has been defined.
Take a look at Pubcap.
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An element of self-delusion sometimes protects the status quo, according to panelist Peggy Berryhill, a former community radio programmer who is now director of services and planning for Native Public Media. ‘A lot of us came from stations where we presumed we knew our audience,” Berryhill said. “We talked amongst ourselves and with our friends, and we thought we were doing a great job, but we weren’t looking at the numbers.’
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I don’t know exactly what numbers would be required in order to make a convincing case that continuing to embrace an ongoing musical mission would be a good thing. But since many here are arguing for preservation of the status quo–well, I guess there must be an element of self-delusion involved in supporting that, as well.
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‘Whatever you’re doing is a community service, but isn’t it better to do it for as many people as you can?’ asked Hacker. ‘By raising the bar in programming to attract more people, you’re more able to do what you want to do.’
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As long as what you really want to do is boost that loyalty metric, anyway.
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KDHX began its renewal project by working with a media values researcher, not an audience researcher, to identify its core service. The consultant, Oregon State University Associate Professor William Loges, conducted surveys and focus groups and worked with the station’s board and staff to define the values that characterize KDHX’s community service. They are: localism, community, entertainment, independence, creative expression and diversity.
‘Our goal is to be a significant community resource for our region that’s financially sound and professionally managed,’ Hacker said. ‘We’re going to do that with a larger audience.’
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And that larger audience, this new notion of service, comes by “losing” the “periphery”. If you are reading this, chances are good that that means you.
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In March, WUMB, the University of Massachusetts’ professionally staffed folk-music station, broadened its music mix, shuffled its lineup and dropped ‘folk radio’ from its branding, according to Pat Monteith, g.m. Apart from complaints from a few dozen Celtic music fans, the schedule changes have been well received, she said, adding, ‘If you listen to the flow of the station, it makes so much more sense now.’
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It makes more sense as long as what you want is the “mix” aesthetic, the little-bit-of-this-little-bit-of-that approach that constitutes a genre unto itself. (Fair disclosure: I sometimes enjoy that approach, myself. But there’s a difference between dabbling in it alongside access to unadulterated forms of particular genres, and throwing those unadulterated forms overboard, when they’re so poorly represented as it is.)
Let’s take a look at Starr, and dig into that aesthetic a little more by looking at one key example of it:
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Community radio has become the last outpost of resistance against the assault on localism… The latest incursion is called ‘Triple-A’ (Adult Album Alternative) music… [described as] ‘neo-traditional, mostly acoustic, literate and sophisticated country-tinged folk rock’ …’Triple A’ is decidedly not a genre recognized by those who create the music, but a formula invented by programmers to appeal to the affluent middle-aged listener who comprise the most desirable demographic for public radio… One force behind the ‘Triple-A’ format is frequently used public radio consultant David Giovannoni, promising stations higher cumulative ratings and income per broadcast hour if they just ‘lose what’s on the periphery’ and ‘focus on a single audience.’ Giovannoni celebrates homogeneity and predictability: ‘A radio station should be something for the same person all the time.’ Those target persons, he explains, are middle-aged and college-educated. However, by catering to the affluent, who already are blessed with many choices, this course effectively expropriates a public resource for the benefit of a privileged few.
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OK, so there’s a particular audience that tends to match up with a preference for the “mix” aesthetic. But why care about them? Where in the world did all this come from?
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The context for this latest move should be familiar by now. Placed in a survival mode by the Reagan Administration and, later, Gingrich-led Congress, NPR stations began to pursue corporate underwriting more aggressively. This led to a preoccupation with ratings, polls and focus groups, and more and longer commercials.
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Ah, I should have known that son of a bitch Reagan was involved somehow…
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There also has been a shift to more national programming featuring a more establishment point of view and NPR branded sound… NPR rejected Prairie Home Companion as ‘offensive to the middle class.’
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I’m imagining Garrison Keillor’s face on the famous Che Guevara poster. Well, as long as we’re talking revolutionaries, let’s ask with Lenin: What is to be done?
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Giovannoni’s advice to station managers is to expect it, ignore it and ride it out. Protestors typically are marginalized as kooks or radicals who do not appreciate the economics of public radio. In turn, critics charge that such station managers ignore their educational mission, failing to distinguish between superficial audiences and committed publics. In the process, they do a disservice to the distinct traditions that comprise the rich diversity of our musical heritage.
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Expect it. Ignore it. Ride it out.
After a while, everyone posting here at this blog will go away.
From the randomville link a few posts above:
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On the contrary, Graff points out the many hours spent conducting research surveys of what the people really want. At the end of the day he says that the goal at KBCS is to be the best Public Service Institution that it can be. Regardless, they can’t make everyone happy, and there is always someone upset when big changes occur in life… Graff stated that by all means they hope that not only will those 250 people give the new format a shot, but also stay with the station. But he understands that there are a lot of different tastes and even if those 250 people would choose to not donate anymore, it would be a shame but in the grand scheme of things, it’s not that high of a number.
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Remember, this is about a reoriented notion of *service*. The more people are listening, the more you’re serving them. Think loyalty metric. If you get on board with the changes, great, but if you end up being replaced by a greater number of other people who pump up that metric, that means greater community service is being done. Right?
The conclusion is clear. For many posters here, the central idea of serving the “community” involves supporting and preserving particular musical constituencies first; everything else is secondary. For what has become the mainstream of nonprofit radio station leadership–not just at KBCS, but apparently damn near everywhere–the central idea of serving the “community” includes maximizing station listenership (as long as the genres used to achieve such maximization are not those represented on *purely* commercial radio, meaning, a tilt toward “mix” genres and left-er-than-mainstream news/public affairs); everything else is secondary.
The notions of community involved, and what constitutes service to it, are simply different now. So if you don’t like these programming changes, don’t expect that simply appealing to the value of “community” is likely to make that much of a dent, because there’s an apples and oranges problem. Maybe appealing to tradition, or preservation, or the idea of community radio as a forum for coalition between disparate musical constituencies would work better, but either way, unless you challenge what the idea of “community” really means–and why–you’re not getting anywhere.
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Cards on the table: Some of the programming changes will probably attract me. I am in many ways the kind of demographic Giovannoni’s talking about. Left-er than mainstream is just fine for me, I sometimes dig an “adulterated” mix, blah blah blah. Given that my primary musical tastes and a fair chunk of my talk/news/public affairs tastes lie outside KBCS’s orbit, if I just pick up Dyson and Hard Knock a couple of times a week I’ll be contributing my bit to the loyalty metric boost. (And–to be fair–I’m not blind to the idea that at least some of the programming changes, like the ones I just mentioned, have the goal of changing the demographic mix of KBCS’s listenership–something that seems good, all other things being equal.) On top of that, I also appreciate that there is a financial and social realpolitik in America that made a lot of all this (remember that SOB Reagan) a fairly foregone evolution as far back as the 80s. So even though I’ve spoken fairly caustically above, I don’t want to paint myself as some revolutionary, or the folks who run the station now as “the enemy”. Pointing out the differences in where we’re all coming from–and the degree to which those differences piss me off–isn’t that same thing as creating hard/fast lines between us. At the end of the day I genuinely believe everyone involved means well, or at least as well as they can within the horizon of their own presumptions and worldview (something that goes for me too, considering I’m as specifically positioned as anyone else).
But becoming a volunteer at KBCS for me wasn’t completely about the fact that it was nearly the only place in the area where I could do a show like the one I did for six years. I treasured the fact that it ran shows that I couldn’t find anywhere else, if I cared to listen to them–that it was a haven for musical constituencies that were too noncommercial to find a berth anywhere else locally. That was an important value to me that I supported with donations, labor, camaraderie, process, and a good deal of money spent feeding a show that it didn’t make sense for the station to fund, because it was so far outside the primary missions of the station. That meant a lot to me, and that’s why I’m bothering to post my million words here yet again–because I feel like the mission and ethos I fell in love with are slipping away (and likely to be unrecoverable once lost), being replaced by something else that certainly has a number of positive elements, but nonetheless just doesn’t seem quite the same.
#8 by MadDogM13 on July 23, 2009 - 4:01 pm
Let me put it bluntly. These changes are a crock.
I’m second to no one in my admiration for John Gilbreath’s Friday morning show (and his work for Earshot Jazz). But what differentiates KBCS and makes it special is DIVERSITY. For one example, I can’t think of any station in Puget Sound with a show like “Vintage Jazz.” If these are the changes coming in Phase I during prime listening hours, I shudder to think what the future might hold for the shows devoted to noise music, Bollywood, Medieval music…
I suppose any “community” radio station faces the choice between uniqueness and accessibility. To cite one example, John Richards’ tenure at KEXP has moved that station definitively toward the latter option. For the past five years, it’s become a slightly more “underground” version of KMTT, with programming targeted toward listeners who don’t like their music too “challenging” or “out there.” That’s about the point that I decided to stop my financial support. In the past year, the more innovative and adventurous shows KBCS has offered led me to believe that it had become a station I was willing to support financially. Now? I think I’ll send my money to WFMU. They’re available on the Internet just like KBCS, and whatever their sins of “unprofessionalism,” at least they don’t put me to sleep.
#9 by Susan Helf on July 23, 2009 - 12:52 am
KBCS is licensed as a community radio station, with a federally-granted right to use public airwaves. While the license is held by Bellevue College, the station belongs to the public.
In managing this public entity, KBCS employees have a duty of accountability to us, the listeners and financial supporters of the station. It is past time to establish a board of directors for KBCS Radio to provide community oversight.
It is appalling that the management is unilaterally planning such deep changes in the programming that the entire mission and tradition of the station is at risk.
Before any of these changes are implemented, KBCS management and BCC must hold a public hearing. I want to see financial reports. How much money does KBCS have? What are its costs? Who, beside the current management, supports the extremely unpopular programming changes?
As others have pointed out, why would a financially strapped radio station fire long-time experienced volunteer DJs and then pay new programmers?
To learn more about real community radio, go to Grass Roots Radio at http://www.grradio.org/index.html. Read the list of member stations from around the US. KBCS is not on the list.
Susan Helf
Seattle
#10 by Joy on July 22, 2009 - 10:43 pm
Well, that’s about as clear as mud, Peter Graff. You sound completely confused. What is the POINT of junking popular veteran hosts and then just starting from scratch with new ones–you don’t even know who now! How is this supposed to generate more listeners and income, especially when the loyal LWF listeners will desert in droves (and take their pledges with them, me included)? The description of the kind of programming they want to have sounds strangely similar to Lunch w/Folks. What the heck is going on here?
I’m very disturbed by the trends in NPR, also. It is becoming more like commercial radio every day — All Things Considered, which I listen to a lot in the afternoons, is now interrupted so many times with trailers for upcoming shows (“be there then” as I call it), weather, traffic, call letters, announcers telling you their names repeatedly, and increasing plugs for the sponsors, that it is becoming very difficult to listen to. (I heard three promos for The Gates foundation in 45 minutes yesterday, not to mention other sponsors). Stories with any substance are getting shorter and there’s more of this type of “filler” in between them, by the day. I’m about ready to give up on it all and start looking for internet radio stations, as others are suggesting they will do if KBCS heads down this road.
Do we want KBCS to start sounding like this? It feels very much like this is what they are trying to do. I remember a few years ago when the hosts had to start saying the station name and 91.3 etc. more often. I counted seven times in one hour once! It just sounded ridiculous. I hate this “professionalization” of the hosts. The only way this station is ever going to survive is not, like the corporate consultants seem to have told them, by adopting the formulas of the others, but by getting back to the basics of what it has all been about all these years (volunteer run and hosted community radio) and drop all this corporate-inspired nonsense.
#11 by Steve Saunders on July 22, 2009 - 3:02 pm
FYI, here’s some information I received about what is going on with Lunch with Folks:
From: Peter Graff
Date: Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Subject: KBCS: Call for Weekday Afternoon Hosts
To:
________________________________
Just the facts
What you need to know from this email
Afternoon Show Host ? I?m accepting applications for
host
positions on the new 12 noon to 3 pm weekday program (which
begins Monday, 8/24). The application deadline is 7 a.m. on
Wednesday, August 5th. All details are below, in FAQ
format.
________________________________
Hi everyone,
I?m now accepting applications for weekday afternoon
hosts,
to begin on August 24th. I like the FAQ format, so here
are
all the details:
What?s the (as of yet unnamed) weekday afternoon show
supposed to be?
The new weekday afternoon (12 noon to 3 p.m.) program will
be roughly based on the format established by Lunch With
Folks and other KBCS Americana programs. It will showcase
music spanning Americana tradition(s), and will include (but
not be limited to) folk, blues, country, western swing,
honky tonk, bluegrass, and also feature artists not
typically associated with such genres, but whose work is
strongly influenced by them. The show will have a strong
emphasis on new music, independent artists, live in-studio
performances by touring artists, and music not getting
airplay elsewhere.
The show?s ?sound? will be a continual work in
progress,
involving regular collaboration amongst fellow hosts and key
staff members. As it evolves, regular attention will be
paid to key music resources such as the Americana Music
Association, the Roots Music Report, College Music Journal
(CMJ), as well as relevant magazines, websites, and blogs to
ensure listeners are continually discovering quality new
music that shares links to roots based sounds. As a
co-host
, you will be integrally involved in creating the show?s
overall sound.
If I?m a host, what?s expected of me?
All afternoon show hosts will work collaboratively (with
each other and the music and program directors) on a regular
basis to continually shape and define the overall sound of
the show, as well as expose each other to new music that may
not be on some hosts? radar. Emphasis will be placed on
musical direction, consistency of presentation from day to
day, as well as musical flow and continuity from the 9-noon
programming. Hosts will be encouraged to explore genres
that appeal to them personally as well as links between
various genres, but there should be continual attention paid
to the show?s overall sound from day to day, thereby
creating a unified program that celebrates consistently
excellent music and hosting.
As a host, you?ll have regular ?air checks? to work on
continually improving your mic and presentation skills.
And
like other programming on KBCS, the show?s service to the
KBCS audience will be continually assessed, primarily
through listener loyalty, total listening, and pledge drive
revenue.
Oh, and if selected to be a host, one of your first
collaborative tasks will be to come up with a new show name.
Why are you asking for programmer applications now?
Originally, I asked three current KBCS hosts (Christine
Linde, Sean Donovan, and Iaan Hughes) to collaboratively
host and guide the creation of this new show. This was a
subjective decision on my part, based on their overall
musical vision, dedication to continually improving their
skills as hosts, as well as their current presentation style
(along with the fact that Sean and Iaan were already
familiar voices on Lunch With Folks).
The original intention was to pay them for this effort, but
the level of compensation we could offer did not make
hosting more than one day a week feasible for any of
them.
Faced with that reality, I?ve decided to open each of the
show?s five weekday shifts to current KBCS hosts who are
interested in applying.
Will I be paid?
At this time, because we expect to fill each day with a
different host, these will be volunteer positions. If a
single host is doing more than one day of regular hosting
each week (not counting subbing), and if the funding is
available, we will work toward paying for additional days.
Ultimately, like the mid-morning show, we feel that this
show should be hosted by a single person throughout the week
, and that she or he should be compensated. As more
funding
becomes available, we would like to move in that direction,
and will make the host selection process clear to all KBCS
volunteers when we do.
I?m interested. How do I apply?
By Wednesday, August 5th at 7 a.m., please send me
(electronically please) an application with the following:
A brief bio and synopsis of your hosting experience.
A detailed description of your musical vision for the show,
and why you think you should be a host.
An example playlist for a single 3-hour show.
A 30-minute audio demo. This can be something you produce
with the new show in mind, or a show you?ve previously
done
on KBCS. If it?s a previous show that?s aired within
the
last two months, just give me the date and time and I?ll
pull the skim.
Again, please have your application to me no later than 7
a.m. on Wednesday, August 5th.
How will the final decision be made?
All applicants will be considered on the following criteria:
Overall mic and presentation skill
Consistency of musical vision with other hosts
General willingness to work collaboratively with co-hosts
and staff
This decision will ultimately be made by me, with feedback
from the PAG and key staff members.
Thanks. Any questions, feel free to call or email me.
-pete
Peter Graff
Program Director | KBCS 91.3 FM Community Radio
#12 by Randomville on July 21, 2009 - 5:11 pm
#13 by Julia Paulsen on July 21, 2009 - 12:33 pm
As an avid listener to the diverse range of jazz, folk and world music shows expertly hosted by the wonderful volunteer programmers at KBCS, I was dismayed to learn of all the upcoming program changes proposed for the station. However, the demise of Drivetime Jazz, which consistently starts my mornings, is the greatest loss for me, as it will be impossible to find a comparable musical equivalent for morning radio listening.
This longtime supporter urges the KBCS management to please reconsider these changes. Real community radio should not be about “growth,” more money, bigger CPB grants, the latest technology, or managerial control—rather it is about respecting your listeners by providing us with a variety of music we can’t hear on other radio stations, valuing your volunteer programmers for their commitment to and knowledge of this music, and honoring musicians by providing them an outlet for their talents. Thank you.
#14 by Doug French on July 16, 2009 - 11:57 pm
Well, it’s usually money that ruins everything –could it just be that everyone’s tapped; and it’s not the radio, it’s just short pockets?? I had a look in my check register, and you haven’t sent me a membership bill / notification since ’04. I’m so used to paying well before the pledge drives that I never call then, and I had no idea I wasn’t current. My bad, but please keep the mailings / reminders to your members coming, like you used to. Here’s where I’m coming from….
Lunch with folks has introduced me to all the music that I now buy and enjoy. There is nothing like hearing the intro, the first line or two of a song I’ve never heard before, that at once excites and reassures me. From the first note I am listening intently. The excitement is from the hope and promise of a new song that will resound within me– awaken memories, create awareness, tickle my funny bone, or just be approachable and well executed. The reassurance is in recognizing that someone else thinks like I do, cares about what I care about; is making music that, for those brief moments when the notes are shimmering in the air, has magic, presence, and power. It might be a song that I will want to learn to play and sing and teach to family and friends. It might be a song so compelling I must have it immediately so I can listen over and over and just let it saturate me. Many’s the time I’ve sat waiting to hear the artist and song announced so I would know what to go out and get. My family will recall my browbeating them to learn all the parts to Traveler’s Prayer that I so painstakingly sussed out and recorded for them; my voice and the piano on one track, the recording on the other so they could first learn it, and then get used to singing it with the other parts. I heard it only on KBCS.
Let’s keep the community aspect – responding to the local people and their tastes, adding to that with care. Don’t drown us in zydeco and peppy dance music. We can handle some of that, but you have to keep the folk music: good music, old faves, lots of new music– topical, political, funny, sad– tunes that tell a story. Let it be what clicks with us here in these parts. It takes people from around here or who really know the scene here to be able to do that. The college aspect can be about encouraging the listener to think. The people you have now do a stellar job, thoughtful and knowledgable. The breadth and depth of commitment and talent displayed in the show of an Eric Hardy or (from way back) a Susan Madden, and so many others, is simply astounding. I see no problem with your current djs and programs. We’re a diverse bunch of listeners, and you have a variety of people of different ages / tastes / styles / programs playing tunes for us. We can tune in for what we like, and try the others sometimes for something different.
We already have talk radio, we already have news radio, we already have boring pap / same tunes every three hours all over the dial. If they have some need to turn this into a money making operation, maybe they should just get jobs in commercial radio. (And who are they, anyway?) If money’s the problem, maybe you need to go (back?) to ALL VOLUNTEER.
Change is good?? Well, sometimes……but keeping what works is good too, and it works wonderfully now. A paycheck does NOT guarantee quality, and using volunteers does not preclude it. I don’t need slick professional easy mellifluous one size is gonna have to fit all radio–I just need good music thoughtfully applied. I can’t listen to the radio all the time, but I will make an effort to tune in when you’ve got what I want. If you go down this road, I doubt you’ll have what I want, or can even learn to like.
DON’T SCREW IT UP!! Sincerely, Doug
#15 by Tim Wetmiller on July 16, 2009 - 10:11 pm
I’ve been a paying member of KBCS for several years and I vow to never contribute a dime to the station if any of the 9-12 jazz programs are cut. It’s because of the exceptional good taste and charisma of hosts like Joni Nelson, Bernie Goldberg, Bud, and Al Barnes that I’ve felt compelled to donate money during each fund drive. Many of the more obscure recordings heard on these shows can be found nowhere else on the radio. While there are a few other KBCS programs I enjoy, any station whose management would even consider taking these DJs off the air has no soul and is unworthy of my financial support. I have no doubt that most if not all of my friends who contribute to the station feel exactly the same as myself and will act according during pledge drive time. I’ve found this to be true to those I’ve spoken to since I heard about the proposed changes. If the changes do take place I expect KBCS to have much more trouble raising funds in the future.
#16 by SteveSaunders on July 16, 2009 - 9:27 pm
FYI, there is a discussion about the changes on the nodepression web site:
http://www.nodepression.com/group/seattlemusic
…featuring my alter ego, soulduke…
#17 by Cathy Britell on July 16, 2009 - 8:03 pm
Here’s something I’m having trouble understanding.
KBCS has increased its support from donations and underwriting very significantly over the years, meeting their goals consistently. Yet, expenses, such as health care and other benefits to employees, are going up faster than revenues. So, they address this by HIRING MORE EMPLOYEES, and getting rid of their volunteer programmers? Something seems fishy here.
So far, I have admired and appreciated KBCS management for doing a very good job in difficult situations, sticking with this tiny station because they believed in it, what it stood for, and what it brought to the community. I don’t think they’d wreck it on purpose; but it sure seems as though that’s what’s happening.
#18 by Lesa Sullivan on July 16, 2009 - 6:19 pm
Hi, I’m a supporter of KBCS and a HUGE fan of Caravan, Daily Planet, Lunch with Folks and especially 20th Century Jazz. I have listened to these programs for years, in every kitchen I’ve ever worked in. They are part of my worklife-I can’t imagine being without them. PLEASE don’t eliminate these programs. The changes you’ve proposed will completely alter the feel and sound of KBCS. I feel like my friends are on their deathbeds…these DJs have saved my life with their thoughtful and inspired programming. I can’t tell you how much it hurts to hear that these programs will be gone.
I don’t make a ton of money doing what I do, but I do it cause I love it. I appreciate KBCS because it does what it loves too. I support it with a monthly donation. Please reconsider these changes, so I don’t have to reconsider my investment in KBCS.
#19 by Kris on July 16, 2009 - 3:56 pm
I work with a nonprofit which began to underwrite KBCS in the past year, at my recommendation. However, should the proposed programming changes go through, I anticipate we will not renew our sponsorship. It’s a basic business /marketing decision: if you lose your audience, we will not have reason to “advertise” via KBCS.
By the way, I love hearing eclectic music while I’m working. It’s now 3:43 pm. If some talk or public affairs program came on to KBCS now instead of Daily Planet, I would switch to another station to find some MUSIC. Ideally I would listen to excellent diverse music played by interesting local DJs. When KBCS is no longer an option, we’ll likely have to remove the local bit and settle for streaming a non-local station 
#20 by Eric Apoe on July 15, 2009 - 11:06 pm
Below is a response to Steve from the post I made earlier and forwarded to him….his email was good to receive and this was my reply…I don’t feel right posting his email…..one of the big concerns seems to be is some outside source backing the transition? there seems to be an unusual amount of available funds all of a sudden…and I agree with the comment about the ethics of the spring pledge drive…..
Steve, Thanks for the reply and the information. It clarifies some of the shock, however, I reflected in my post the feelings I had, combined with those of all the people I spoke to about the changes. Everyone is quite upset about what appears to losing the heart
and soul of the station, the volunteers and their experience , paying more staff, and not exploring NEW ways of raising funds. The fact that KBCS is owned by the college is not what people are upset about. We all understand the station needs revenue to
operate, and we have volunteered to assist , but having this drop out of the blue on the community when it has been in the works for some time makes it even a tougher pill the swallow. It appears as a corporate take over, when people show up for work and are
told goodbye, and the funding to sustain this move is in question. Who is behind it ? an outside underwriter? In short it breaks the connection, relationship with the community and people supporting the station, and who have been for years. I saw the post on the
site the other day, but I have not seen or spoken to a single person who feels this a good decision .If there are posting of the changes on the station site I am unaware of them. I was trying to maintain a position of hope in my response, though it obviously
revealed I was not pleased. If this is the path that has been chosen, support from listeners will just fall in my opinion,and once the trust has been broken that is very difficult to repair. Almost the same as an affair in a marriage. I’m sure you feel you have made the
correct choice, and I wish the station luck, I don’t know if I will be there for the future.
Sincerely,
Eric Apoe
#21 by SteveSaunders on July 15, 2009 - 9:49 pm
After doing a little research, and with the help of the new FAQ posting (now on the KBCS site) that Steve Ramsey kindly forwarded to me, I found the answers to the questions in my earlier post. Steve reports directly to Mike Talbot, the Bellevue College Dean of Information Resources. His email is mtalbott@bellevuecollege.edu. Dean Talbot, I assume, reports to the college president, B. Jean Floten, who I assume reports to the college board of trustees. I do not think it would hurt to make them aware of any concerns we may have.
I appreciate the fact that being general manager of a public radio station with declining listenership presents some difficult challenges, and that changes may be necessary, but getting rid of some of your best people and alienating a good chunk of your existing loyal base baffles me.
#22 by Kris on July 15, 2009 - 8:17 pm
A job posting for a musical director at $40,163 was opened 7/10/09. Tellingly, one of the “Desirable Qualifications” appears in a much larger font than the rest:
$ A strong commitment to improve station financial well being as well as its image and visibility throughout our broadcast regions.$
I leave it to you to interpret this … http://bellevuecollege.edu/joblist/009037.html
Can’t help but noticing they took the community out of Bellevue Community College; now they’re trying to take the community out of KBCS.
P.S. Sure glad I didn’t give to the emergency fund drive.
#23 by Bob Knudson on July 15, 2009 - 5:38 pm
#24 by SteveSaunders on July 15, 2009 - 1:03 pm
I have been feeling ill ever since getting the savekbcs news release last week. Sent email to Steve Ramsey expressing my disbelief and got a call back from Sabrina and had a long talk… I appreciated that and was reassured to some degree that some good people are going to remain on the air, but I can’t get over the fact that some of the very best programmers I have encountered in years of being an avid public/community radio listener in various parts of the country are being “retired” against their will. It seems so foolish and unprofessional and unkind and disrespectful and… well, Joni’s tearful goodbye today was just heartbreaking…
I could go on, and probably will later, but have a question: Who does Steve Ramsey and the current station management report to? Is there a board? Is there some forum or group or individual who should hear the extent of the pain and hurt this proposed change is causing? The way this is being handled can’t possibly be good for the long-term health of the station.
#25 by Gregory Lewis on July 15, 2009 - 12:44 pm
As an underwriter, I have to ask: are these changes about money, politics, or leadership with big egos and dreams of becoming a typical Clear Channel station? Is KBCS going to go the direction of KPFK in the Bay Area (with on-air hosts dragged from the booth, beaten by police, and arrested at the request of station management, for example)? I hope not.