We want to keep the “Community” in Community radio, so let us know just how you feel about the planned changes at KBCS.
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To whom it may concern,
I have been appraised of the proposed upcoming changes at KBCS radio in Bellevue, Washington.
As the producer/host of a nationally syndicated radio program for almost 25 years, ( “River City Folk”) who has been intensely involved with public radio issues that entire time, I believe I have some important perspective to bring to these radical changes to KBCS. Just to be clear, “River City Folk” is not carried by KBCS. I have no vested interest in this situation except for my concern for the music and the listeners.
The first thing that concerns me is the duplicity of soliciting funds on air for ongoing programming from listeners this part spring, knowing that the monies would be used to pay a consultant to bring about changes, and to eventually replace longtime volunteers with paid staff. This was a clear breach of ethical fundraising, and a cynical manipulation of listener loyalty. This tactic alone should ensure that these changes are scrutinized and re-examined by college trustees and other agents of the taxpayers that fund Bellevue Community College.
KBCS is a beacon of cultural light for underserved musical communities in Seattle, particularly the folk and jazz community. It has been spectacularly successful in fulfilling the mission statement listed on the stations website, and is an outstanding representative of a Community/college radio station licensee. The loss to Seattle, and to the jazz and folk music community in Puget Sound if these program changes are allowed to happen, will be swift and catastrophic. Without the shows and personalities on KBCS that now feature this music and artists in these genres, live venues will suffer and/or close, fewer musicians will learn or create this music,
and we continue down a disturbing path to homogeny, mediocrity, and further commercialization in the arts.
I have observed this same scenario in other communities, and a station like KBCS trying to compete with a mainstream NPR affiliate or a commercial Americana corporate station inevitably fails, no matter what the consultant has been telling the administration. Format changes begin to occur every 6 months to a year, after the radical changes in programming are seen to alienate the base audience that has been painstakingly built up for decades or longer. KBCS will cease to be a “public” radio station in the sense that it is responsive to its listeners and community, and begin a futile effort to match ratings and duplicate formats with stations that are much better funded and established. It is a foolish course of action, particularly for a station
that already commands very respectable rankings in the areas Arbitron radio surveys, and that enjoys enviable listener support.
Once the changes are made, longtime volunteers are let go, and people stop tuning in to KBCS and contributing money, the damage is done. It is very difficult to go back.
I urge you to reconsider the actions you have announced. I believe they are not only ill-advised, ethically suspect, and culturally damaging to the entire Seattle area; but experience in other markets indicates these changes will achieve exactly the opposite effect from your stated goal of increased listenership and enhanced fundraising.
Sincerely,
Tom May
Vancouver, Washington
http://www.tommayfolk.com
founder/host/producer , “River City Folk” nationally syndicated radio broadcast on public radio and XM satellite radio, Channel 15, “The Village
#2 by kate Bradley on July 14, 2009 - 9:24 pm
I’ve been a supporter and volunteer at KBCS for over 20 years, and love the music. These changes are dismaying to me. The news programs that are planned are just opinion, really. Journalists aren’t being paid any more to do their fine work. So what is the point?
I have been introduced to so much incredible music by the diverse individual programmers at KBCS. I honestly don’t understand how the station can simultaneously advertise for a new $40K music programmer position, and claim that funding is a problem.
When I volunteered for the summer pledge drive, I was moved beyond words at the number of people who called to donate $10, $15, $20 – even though they were out of work or their family had been reduced to one income or their own pay had been cut. They made those sacrifices from loyalty to the idea of volunteer-run programs – the music. I feel as if those people are being betrayed.
KBCS may not have market share, but what happens if these changes don’t advance the station? Is there a Plan B? I would like to see other ideas considered, before eliminating Daily Planet and making the schedule changes that have been announced. Thanks very much.
Kate
#3 by Joy on July 14, 2009 - 9:45 am
This is in response to Paola’s comment, #42.
I am not trying to “diss” on GatorBoy. It is just my own opinion that he’s not the same quality of programmer the others are. We’re all entitled to our favorites. I feel it is important that people know what this change is going to entail.
John Sincock and Ginger Hopper have been doing the Lunch w/Folks show since I’ve been listening, 20 years now (though Gellman is a relative newcomer at a mere ten years or so). Between them that’s over 50 years of combined programming experience and expertise! For them to be unceremoniously dumped in favor of a more professional DJ type only recently added to the show, is a real kick in the teeth not only to their incredible dedication and experience, but also to the loyal listeners. How many thousands of hours of their own personal time have these respected hosts given to this station?
What an absolute insult this proposed “change” is. I cannot, for the life of me, understand how this will generate more listeners or income. Judging from all these comments, precisely the opposite.
#4 by Terri Hartsock on July 14, 2009 - 8:52 am
#5 by Carolyn in NE Seattle on July 14, 2009 - 8:10 am
We love the diversity and the knowledge that the many volunteer DJs bring to our family. We love learning about new albums that have come out. We love hearing local musicians come into the studio and play. I listen to Democracy Now on my drive home from work. I listen to Lunch with Folks online at work or from the archived play lists. We love the “community” that comes from volunteers going into the station month after month to bring in their library of music to supplement the KBCS music. I love the morning jazz shows that I listen to on my way to work after 9am.
#6 by Linda Grez on July 13, 2009 - 9:24 pm
As a regular listener and supporter over 18 years, I do not want to lose the local expertise and talents of the DJs at KBCS, especially the diverse group who host Lunch with Folks. I tune in because KBCS is different from everything else in the region on the airwaves, and it is always fresh and expands my world. It is a community station, which means it plays an important public function to educate and provide exposure to cultural treasures that simply cannot be purchased via commercial outlets. Many institutions that have such a mission subsidize some of their activities in order to support others that are key to their mission. If KBCS loses its character as a community station, I will most likely stop listening and providing my dollars at the pledge drives. Non-profits and other charities have all seen plummeting revenues and donations in the past years. That’s not a reason to trash the station’s mission and some beloved programming – it’s a wake-up call to figure out a different business model to support it. I also must wonder how hiring paid DJs and pre-recorded, mass-produced programs is cheaper than coordinating volunteers. I also have no doubt that the rest of the proposed changes in the works won’t be my cup of tea either….The lack of public information sharing and dialogue with the station’s GENEROUS supporters isn’t how a community radio station should handle such major shifts, either. I vote NO on the proposed changes, and my dollars will follow my vote.
#7 by Susan Helf on July 13, 2009 - 9:07 pm
I have been listening to KBCS since 1982, when I discovered Susan Madden’s folk program. I fell in love with the programming. I’ve been a subscriber ever since. I am adamantly opposed to ALL THE CHANGES the management is contemplating making to the format.
KBCS is a wonderful, community-based radio station, with great DJs who really know their music. I listen to the Tuesday night Folk Sounds, Road Songs, Lunch With Folks, Our Saturday Tradition, Sunday Folks, the Bluegrass Ramble, Sunday’s Hornpipe. I enjoy listening to the DJs interview local and visiting musicians. I have learned so much about folk music from KBCS. I love being able to call up DJs who seem like friends to ask “who was that great fiddler? Where can I get her album?” And they always know the answer. You can’t get that level of connection between listeners and programmers with paid stooges playing middle-of-the-road “Americana.”
KUOW lost me as a subscriber years ago when it banned music and went to all-talk, all-the-time programming. If KBCS makes the changes it has announced, I will stop subscribing after donating money to the station for 27years.
KBCS has a contract with the community. It is licensed as a community – not for profit – not “lite” jazz and easy listening as background noise. This terrible plan hatched by the bean-counters would destroy the community nature of OUR station. Leave it like it was. Better yet, return the programming to its former model – four-hour programs, more blues and less Hawaiian music. Bring back Mountain Stage and the Shamrock & Thistle.
Susan Helf
Seattle
#8 by Joe Pollock on July 13, 2009 - 6:02 pm
To respond in part to Pete Bentley:
“Please reconsider your future programming choices. If your desire is to force people to satelite and iternet music, you are headed in the correct direction. But if would like to continue to provide musical diversity to the people who appriciate what you offer, please consider your plans.”
My worry is that it’s not a desire to force people to satelite and internet music, but an effort to prevent that from happening. And that effort is likely to be futile – this has been going on for the past few years at an accelerating rate. How often do you see people with radios as opposed to music players of various kinds? And the incorporation of music players with direct WiFi access into the new generation of smartphones will only speed the process. Does anyone make a phone with an FM radio? There ARE a few MP3 players that do… I come across very few students at Evergreen who rely on radio any more (fortunately, those who do often volunteer at KAOS 
And internet radio is heavily accessed on campus. What is the listenership of the internet stream at KBCS? Does it bring in significant financial support? Or is it a few folks scattered around the country? I know that I have a few web listeners to my show – they call occasionally, including the artists who send us music – but the usage rate of the stream is low, typically in the range of 5-10 simultaneous clients, and the last time I checked the stream had peaked at about 25.
This makes me wonder if the web listenership doesn’t parallel broadcast listenership more than we want to think about.
I would think that the incredible consolidation of the industry would push more people to community radio, but that doesn’t appear to be the case.
Does anyone know if there is a grassroots radio conference this year? Their web site doesn’ show one.
#9 by Paola on July 13, 2009 - 11:02 am
Let’s not diss on “Gator Boy”, Sean Donovan. He is a good man and good DJ.
Let’s keep the issue at hand which again, is the way things are done at KBCS.
It’s not fair to jump on the DJ’s, after all they still are ALL, whether gone or still there an important part of the KBCS and ALL have brought their own unique perspective to programs WE ALL like.
Just keepin’ it real.
#10 by Phantom107 on July 13, 2009 - 10:34 am
A further comment on Bruce Wirth’s last post #24 –
“It certainly seems to me there might be alternatives to putting the kind of music each volunteer likes on the air, at the day and time that happens to be convenient for the volunteer. To me, that programming strategy puts the needs of the volunteer ahead of the listener – hardly a desirable way to deliver a service to the community. I cannot imagine any other community organization making the decision to offer only the services the volunteers felt like offering, only at their convenience.”
Well…..
It certainly seems to me the proposed changes would be largely for the convenience of KBCS staff. Granted it’s a tough job to co-ordinate over a hundred volunteers with differing opinions and tastes. I take my hat off to all who’ve tried their hand at running a community radio station, but will KBCS really be a community radio station anymore if the opinions and tastes it provides are those of the few instead of the many? Many many many listeners think not. Take a look at the listener comments page.
http://www.savekbcs.org/comments.html
Dear Admin, I’d like to suggest you include this link at the top of this page, it doesn’t seem to be there.
#11 by Julie on July 13, 2009 - 10:34 am
I’ve been hearing about changes coming to the station, and while the information has been incomplete, the notion of relying way less on volunteer programmers in favor of paid ones seems to be pretty certain. I know I’m not alone in saying it goes terribly against the grain of what the station has long been about. I think the fresh take each volunteer programmer brings to their particular block of time, is one of the things that kept people tuning in and listening. You can’t really suppose that whoever programs 5-days of, say, jazz shows, is going to play (and understand) the range of jazz music that’s played each morning by different programmers, can you? Actually I’ve thought that the caliber of volunteer programmers has really increased. In my experience, the station has often invited listeners to think about programming their own shows, take the training, etc. Talk about community outreach.
But now? That’s apparently all about to become a memory, and a bitter one.
I put in some time myself as a Program Director at KBCS many years back, so I understand that moves are sometimes necessary to keep a station strong. But what I’ve heard seem to be plans not to keep the station strong, but to end its days as a community radio station and change it into — what? I haven’t even raised the subject of how increasing the payroll seems a less-than-wise choice for a station always playing catch-up with its operating costs. Years ago, KBCS had a very small part-time staff. Over the years, the staff has grown, maybe too much for what the budget can handle. I think you’re disrupting the mission of the station, wiping out the sense of community on both sides of the board, and retaining nothing at all of the a KBCS spirit that once reached its listeners in ways that no other Seattle-area station even attempted. I hope you’ll reconsider and open up to more input before these changes are implemented
Julie Forkasdi,
Former Program Director
#12 by Pete Bentley on July 13, 2009 - 6:03 am
Dear KCBS owners and program managers,
I live on the right coast and have seen the Mid-Atlantic radio scene completely homoginized. Besides the hard to acquire college stations and a couple other low wattage private stations, the Washington, DC area is a radio waste land of talk and constantly repeated play lists.
Please reconsider your future programming choices. If your desire is to force people to satelite and iternet music, you are headed in the correct direction. But if would like to continue to provide musical diversity to the people who appriciate what you offer, please consider your plans.
Pete Bentley
#13 by Joy on July 12, 2009 - 10:47 pm
The paragraph in Steve Ramsay’s and Peter Graff’s letter about proposed changes to the afternoon shows is very vague and misleading and doesn’t come anywhere close to stating what’s actually going to happen. What I just heard directly from a programmer is that the Lunch with Folks shows and hosts will be replaced with the slick, professional DJ GatorBoy Sean Donovan five days a week, who will then be paid. (Donovan’s Monday show is virtually unlistenable, IMO. I stopped listening on Mondays when he came on board a couple years ago–unlike the incredible shows of John Sincock, Richard Gellman and Ginger Hopper, which can be so good as to move one to tears at times.)
And this is just Phase 1!! Who knows what “positive changes” Ramsay and Graff have in store for our beloved weekend shows? They haven’t got the nerve to announce that yet.
#14 by Ric Spengler on July 12, 2009 - 10:44 pm
I’ve been listening KBCS for at least 20 years. I have always tuned in for two reasons: to hear great music and to listen to the DJ’s who volunteer their time. I have never tuned in to listen to the news but haveoften done so as an alternative to the listening to “the news”
Anyone can play music-paid staff or volunteer. But what has always disinguished KBCS is its diversity of programming and its volunteers – their knowledge, and their passion about music. KBCS has something very special and it is its people. People who often volunteer their time for five, ten, and even twenty or morw years.
Personally, I think the station should stick to what it best
#15 by Eric Apoe on July 12, 2009 - 8:02 pm
KBCS Supporters,Staff, and Volunteers,
Some of you may have been around here long enough to remember KRAB radio…KRAB is no more….that was where I first heard music that was not played on commercial radio (when commericial radio was good)….KBCS and KSER have filled the in for the loss of KRAB for years….improvement is taking something and making it better …reformatting is changing something entirely…. I would think that anyone concerned with this matter would agree that improvements are usually welcomed or needed to survive in most any endeavor …..the way I perceive what is proposed,or scheduled here.. is a reformatting….. My estimation of the time it would take for the people who are angry with the changes to diminish and a NEW LISTENERSHIP to be recruited would be AT least 6 months….to turn things around and generate new revenue (in this economy) at best… would be one to two years….I don’t believe this is acceptable for survival (in whatever form)….I am not one who believes in walking away from a fight that needs to be fought…I believe KBCS needs to fight to survive…and needs everyone to pull together to manage it…other ideas should be explored….this one… I believe will insure the dimise of the station… and that would be more than a tragedy to all who have worked there and all who are working there…and music in the North West will suffer a deadly blow that it WILL NOT recover from……
#16 by Iain Edgewater on July 12, 2009 - 5:25 pm
I’m responding directly to part of Bruce’s post in #24. I found many of his comments insightful and challenging, and had points of disagreement with others. I focus on some of the latter below, then move to a potentially controversial point of my own. I know it’s an awful lot of words, and I apologize for being long-winded, but I’m saying what I think is important to say.
(First, though, a little fair disclosure: Bruce was one of the people who helped bring me on as a programmer, in 1999-2000. I always considered our interactions to be good, and never had occasion to question his professional judgments. I’ve been away from the station for a little over two years (I had just started trying to get involved again when all this business exploded), but based on our past interactions I feel confident that he is speaking with good faith and intention here. Thus, the following points are intended as creative engagement, not attack, with someone with whom I used to discuss these kinds of issues before, albeit at a lower level of heat and in a much calmer context.)
Bruce says: “While community participation in the radio station is important, I think its possible that the connection can be maintained without relying entirely on volunteer-produced programming. It certainly seems to me there might be alternatives to putting the kind of music each volunteer likes on the air, at the day and time that happens to be convenient for the volunteer. To me, that programming strategy puts the needs of the volunteer ahead of the listener – hardly a desirable way to deliver a service to the community. I cannot imagine any other community organization making the decision to offer only the services the volunteers felt like offering, only at their convenience.”
The first point, minor but important, is that this invocation of “convenience” puts a rhetorical thumb on the scales. Leaving aside deeper consideration of whether programmers uniformly enjoy the fruits of such convenience–I certainly didn’t, having gotten marooned on overnights and never able to leave–it suggests a picture of on-air volunteers bogarting some resource that could be put to better use, like someone refusing to leave the last rent-controlled apartment in a building otherwise aching to go condo. I’m sure this wasn’t intentional. But this image precipitates from “convenience” in any event, and bolsters a problematic framing of what volunteer programmers are broadcasting, while bypassing what seems to me to be a key issue lurking at the heart of all this.
I’ll get to that later, but first, turning to the matter of those choices: the depiction of them as “the kind of music each volunteer likes,” and further that these “put[] the needs of the volunteer ahead of the listener,” seems to paint the situation with much too broad a brush. This is for two main reasons:
(1) When someone shows up wanting to do a show featuring X kind of music, someone on staff at the station has to approve that. In my case, not only did that involve making a demo and creating a bunch of playlists that indicated I had sufficient familiarity with my genre to do a show that represented it well, but it also involved someone who wasn’t me making a decision that a show of that type was–at that time–a worthy addition to the lineup. So if “kind of music each volunteer likes” means liking a given genre *as a whole*, that’s irrelevant because the PD and MD were the gatekeepers who allowed the show on the air, and of course programmers will be attached to “their” own genre.
(2) However, maybe “kind of music each volunteer likes” means something like “the volunteer in question plays only that portion of the genre that s/he likes, ignoring other, perhaps more representative portions, and thereby produces broadcasts that are out of synch with what the listening audience would expect from a show ostensibly dedicated to genre X”. But there are checks and balances there, too. People call you on the air and tell you what they think, even at 2 in the morning. They call the PD. They leave comments on the comment line. They talk to you when you run into them at other people’s gigs, or wherever. In other words, you are responsible to what might be called your musical constituency, and the best programmers go out of their way to involve themselves in that constituency (and be affected by it) at a deep level. It’s nowhere near as simple as deciding “to offer only the services… volunteers [feel] like offering, only at their convenience,” as if these volunteers were disconnected from their musical constituencies in some lone wolf manner.
It is definitely true that being the person on the mic does impose a certain top-down dynamic on the relationship with listeners. That’s the nature of the medium. However, it’s hardly an imprimatur to work in a vacuum. The station saw fit to let you on the air in the first place, and the feedback you get about your show will help make clear how well or poorly you are synching up with your program’s musical constituency. So this depiction of “community participation… [and] volunteer-produced programming… [as a] programming strategy [that] puts the needs of the volunteer ahead of the listener” is overly dichotomizing with regard to the volunteer/listener dynamic. It also downplays the role of the on-air volunteer as a transducer of that constituency’s listening desires (knowing them well enough to know what they might want to hear), a culture broker (with respect to understanding and passing along what kind of new or unfamiliar material would appeal to their musical constituency), and as an advocate for micro-aesthetics with respect to that constituency (e.g. being a champion of composer X) in ways that push the boundaries of that constituency creatively, but not so far as to rupture them. Sure, some programmers will not embrace those roles properly… but as a general rule, they will not be around very long if they don’t. And while there may indeed be ways to connect with various listener constituencies that go beyond simply making sure to include volunteer-produced programming, I think setting up the issue of “whether volunteer-programmed radio is the GOAL of community radio, or simply one of many TACTICS to achieve the goal of authentic connection to the community” is overly counterpositioned.
Nevertheless, even by invoking that (in my opinion) problematic take-home point, Bruce has opened the door to what I think is *the* single most important issue lurking behind all of this: the business of “authentic connection to the community”. I would suggest that we (and by “we”, I mean all of us who concern ourselves with the institution of “community” radio) do not function with a collectively coherent conception of what “community” is, and therefore consistently talk past each other about just what it is we are supposed to be doing in the name of “community”, let alone how we might authentically connect with “it”. This is to be expected. Anthropologists can’t agree on what “culture” is, theologians can’t agree on what “God” is… in my experience, every social formation set up to administer or otherwise be concerned with goods that are limited or difficult to access (e.g.: tough to get on the air, only so much real estate to go around) can be shown to revolve around some central concept that is frequently invoked, but either poorly defined or subject to a variety of different (and usually incommensurable) opinions.
So what is “community” in the community radio context, and how does it affect what we’re talking about here? Does it (as it so frequently seems to) mean “me and people like me, who want our concerns/preferences/interests represented”? Does it mean “incorporative of diversity,” along whatever demographic lines we can advocate for? Does it mean “constituency” in the sense I used it above, to mean something like “the group of people who would, by virtue of their involvements, tastes, or other aesthetic commitments, gravitate toward listening to genre X type of programming”? Does it mean the collection of all such constituencies? Does it have something to do with advocacy of particular points of view, for the ostensible benefit of all, or for some portion of society? Does it mean maximum participation, irrespective of the result? Which of these is most important? Why? How would things be different if one of these was privileged over the others? And how do we know when we are *authentically* in touch with “it”? How can we know?
I don’t think there are easy answers to these questions (especially considering that some of them involve, in my perspective, truly existential issues at their core), and I don’t pretend to have any kind of perfect answer, although of course I have a take on the questions I’ve raised. Except as discussed above and below, I’m not sure my take on the questions is nearly as important as raising them, because ever since I have been around KBCS I have heard people–all well-meaning–talk past each other on these points again, and again, and again. I also see it in the things people are saying to each other here in this forum. Perhaps it is true that the planned changes have to occur, perhaps they’ll work, perhaps they will crash the listenership, perhaps, perhaps, perhaps… but we must be aware that all of these matters are conceived and criticized within particular frames of judgment whose terms are never made clear enough. Remember, as I said above: it is in these zero-sum, limited-good contexts (a situation exacerbated by contemporary media politics and economics) where we are most able to be clueless about what others are saying about The Big Topics. It would be good if we could all be aware of exactly what ideas lie behind whatever it is we’re fighting for, so that we can be absolutely clear when we need to tell someone else exactly why their approach does or doesn’t work, without getting stuck behind abstractions that can cloud our perspectives, agendas, and mutual understanding.
Otherwise, no matter whose side “wins” the current debate, you can be sure that in some minds “community” will win and in other minds “community” will lose. Such is the genesis of bigger troubles down the road.
#17 by Joy on July 12, 2009 - 4:03 pm
What about an online petition? What if we got 50,000 or more signatures in support of KBCS as it is? Would that help override this insanity which sounds like it is being perpetrated by Peter Graff, the Program Director?
I strongly feel this Peter Graff needs to be fired and replaced with a volunteer board of directors for programming, who are committed to keeping the integrity of the station as diverse as it has been all these years (and that would also cut a chunk out of the operating budget right there, so less pledge drive required, kill two birds with one stone).
#18 by Carolyn in NE Seattle on July 12, 2009 - 2:44 pm
My opinion is that we are about to lose a wonderful unique radio station that is listener/volunteer-driven. I dispute the letter from the station management–Where are the 3 years of studies? Where are the numbers to prove the message in the letter? Where is the “community” in this? Of course they are continuing to train radio broadcast volunteers because they have government grants to do this, and that is the basis of what the station is founded on, so my belief is that they are most likely required to continue training. So that is not a concession to those of us who are against changing from the current volunteer-staffed music-centered programming. Also, given the current economic conditions, the financial statements look as if pledge income is up. Where is the financial crisis at KBCS? Who is the group that wants to move in a new direction toward more news and away from music? Who will play the historic one-of-a-kind music? Who will teach our children to love Pete Seeger? Why isn’t there a working board with published minutes so members can see what the direction of the station is? Why did they do a 2nd pledge drive without telling us their plans?
#19 by Steve Erickson on July 12, 2009 - 12:17 pm
Several thoughts:
1. While I don’t personally listen to or like all the music that’s being canceled, I appreciate the in-depth knowledge of the volunteer DJs. Their passing this personal knowledge on is the very definition of culture and the loss of that knowledge is serious. It is not always readily available elsewhere. Some of this is not readily available on the dedicated internet stations.
2. Additionally, while I can listen to great celtic music (for example) on WUMB on their dedicated streaming station all the time or their great live programs when they’re on, listening to KBCS connects with what’s happening in this region. That connection ultimately extends beyond the particular show, genre, or host. It extends to KBCS, the station, and more importantly for our long term future, helps build regional identity. That is vitally important on the political, cultural, and just plain survival levels for our society to deal with the the problems that threaten to literally destroy civilization – environmental degradation, climate change, and population growth.
3. The shift to several paid DJs, even if they were previously volunteers, seems to be a major conceptual change in mission. Since this will take the place of numerous volunteer DJs, I don’t see how this cannot degrade the mission of training new people in these and related skills.
4. As a current board member of a nonprofit environmental organization and a former board member of a regional scientific society, I am well aware of the economic problems caused by the Wall Street looting. However, I would like to see some graphs showing:
a. Changes in KBCS membership over the last 5 years compared with changes in membership of other public radio stations in the region.
b. Changes in KBCS listenership over the last 5 years compared with changes in listenership of other public radio stations in the region.
c. Changes in KBCS financials over the last 5 years compared with changes in financials of other public radio stations in the region.
It is only with factual information that puts KBCS’s situation in context that it is possible to judge whether
a. There is a problem and its extent;
b. The hierarchical level of any problem(s). Does the problem reside at the level of KBCs internally, are all other similar stations facing the same problem; Is it simply generic due to the economy?
Without some sort of analysis that is larger than just KBCS, proposed solutions seem like simply thrashing about.
Finally and on a more personal level, I live on Whidbey Island and remember discovering KBCS in 1989. We lived in the woods, no electricity, and had a funky little battery powered radio. The only way we got reception at all was by placing the radio in the laundry bag and doing strange things with the antenna. One Sunday while moving the antenna around a tinny vice suddenly sang out “Stand up Stand up for Judas, for the cause that Judas served,” and then cut out. With a lot of screwing around, I finally got this new fantastic radio station tuned in to where we could more or less hear it through the static. Every Sunday we did whatever strange radio yoga we had to do to pull in KBCS. When our $$ situation got a little better we started sending money (and have since then). Over the years the broadcast power increased, the reception got better, and I’m glad I helped make that possible. But believe me, there is no way in hell that any kind of news or talk of any sort would have gotten that initial reaction that made us fanatics about KBCS. The changes sound to me like an important incremental step on the the way to becoming like KUOW (white bread radio). We don’t send $$ to KUOW.
#20 by Chuck on July 12, 2009 - 11:30 am
Is Lunch With Folks going away or not? Several comments above say yes, but the KBCS web site says “Feature current veteran KBCS folk hosts weekdays from 12 noon to 3 p.m., who will present
programming spanning the breadth of the American music tradition, from the early days of
country, folk, blues, and beyond, to today’s singer-songwriters and local artists crafting new music
not heard anywhere else.”
In any case, it seems the thrust is to make KBCS more of a public affairs station. I don’t want a mini-NPR, I want my variety of interesting music shows.
The goals of this kind of management seem to be “be bigger, have more audience, do what it takes to have more listeners and support a bigger budget”.
The music comes first to me.
Chuck
#21 by Guy Vieira on July 12, 2009 - 11:23 am
I’ve seen the trend over the years with the station–it is a political and financial agenda rather than a music. If I want politics, I can read it in print. That is a medium specific to that pursuit, but the audio medium is specific to music. I wish we could keep the politics out and let the music do the talking. Taking the music out of the mix, as proposed narrows the media message. Left or right, I resent the politics in my face. Play the music and let me do my own thinking! I guess it all comes down to money, and playing what will get the money coming in. Is this any different than mainstream radio? KBCS established its popularity long ago by being different. Now it seeks to be accepted. Wrong direction!
#22 by Joy on July 12, 2009 - 10:52 am
PROGRAMMERS: Please talk about this when you are on the air! Refer listeners to the website and let them voice their opinions. I’m SURE the majority of listeners will be outraged. Don’t let one person’s crazy ideas ruin KBCS! Do not roll over and die in silence! You have a perfect platform for mobilizing support to fight these changes: your air time. Don’t just play all these sad songs, SAY SOMETHING, please!
#23 by Sheila Blech Long on July 11, 2009 - 7:11 pm
As mentioned above (in comment 17), if you look at the financials, KBCS looks incredibly strong. I don’t know why folks are concentrating on “well, the station will go belly-up if we don’t change”. The percent increase in bottom-line cash in hand would make even Microsoft jealous (actually over 60% – I goofed ’cause I couldn’t believe it was that high).
So it must be something other than fiscal concerns driving this change. I’d be most interested in hearing the managements’ explanation.
#24 by Ginger Hopper on July 11, 2009 - 6:37 pm
quote: ” the program director met with everything single KBCS DJ and explained, in detail, the upcoming changes and the reasons behind them. A vast majority of those DJs were also in agreement with the scheduled changes.”
I very much doubt that!! I told Peter he must be crazy to just “throw away” some of the favorite shows and the incredible knowledge and talent of the DJ/programmers who will be dismissed.
I really hope if this drastic change does happen, that some other radio station/s will be smart and quick enough to snap them up.
Dear KBCS
Yours has been one of the most special radio stations in the USA because of your diversity and many dedicated programmers. We are horrified to hear about the new proposed changes, and hope that you will reconsider before turning KBCS into just another homogenized station, one more bland face in the crowd.
For our little record label in the Netherlands, it is very expensive to provide US radio with new releases, but our policy has been to send as many copies as needed/requested by KBCS DJs because the station has been so unique and exceptional. We have also told a great many music lovers about your station over the years and have helped build your listening audience both by providing our music and via word of mouth.
Please don’t forget what has made KBCS worth listening to in a world of same-old same-old radio, and don’t ruin the excellent programming that has been its greatest asset.
Warm regards,
Liz Meyer & Pieter Groenveld
Strictly Country Records/ Strictly Music
The Netherlands